Transcript: One of the Top Zuma players shows her tricks

This transcript is from a PodTech.net podcast at:
http://www.podtech.net/home/technology/1572/one-of-the-top-zuma-players-shows-her-tricks

Guest: Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Host: Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Host: Robert Scoble - ScobleShow

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Hi! My name is Maryam Scoble and you are watching the ScobleShow. Today, I'm with my good friend Kim Sacha, she is an undergraduate math student, a girl is a math student, Yeh! But she is also a Champion Zuma player, you're asking what is Zuma? Well, Zuma is a Xbox 360 game, that you could also play on the computer or even on your iPod, if I know my iPod and it's a really cool game, I love it, I am not nearly as good as Kim is, and I've been mesmerized watching her play so I thought, I have her share some of here tips and tricks with you and we can all watch her play, here is Kim.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Hello, okay so we're ready to start?

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Yeah.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
All right, first I will go into Adventure mode and...

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
What's your highest score first of all?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Let's go back, let me check, apparently it is 2996690.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
So, you're Harry Holt?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Yes.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Now, how did you pick that name?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Well, it's my husband like Sona (ph) into gaming that, I just use as account still. And Harry Holt is a former Prime Minister of Australia, who disappeared one day, walking along the beach and he hasn't been heard from since so -- and I've to got a new one and so, we are Harry Holt's ghost playing on the Xbox.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
How did you get into this game?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
I saw my husband playing it one day and I said, "move over," It just looked like fun and it's easy to my end (ph), so it's that.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
How long have you been playing?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
I have no idea. I am pretty sure it's about a year.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
About a year, and your ranking, you went to all the way to number 3 in the whole world?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Yes.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Wow!

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Out of how many players -- how many people are online on Zuma?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
I don't know.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Well, when I saw you playing, it was millions but...

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Is it millions?

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
I think so, hundreds of thousands certainly.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Because if you explore, you can see...so we see like 80,000 or it's like the largest in those but...

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Cool! And do you play any other -- this is an Xbox 360 system right?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Yes.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
High Def Screen, do you play any other games?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
I started to play some Fishy Game, but, it wasn't as interesting as Zuma, so, I came back.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
So...

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Let's roll.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Let's roll, let's see, what playing Zuma is all about? Now, what level are you going to start this at?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
First, I will just play in Level 12, which is...

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
That's fairly hard to get up there right. Maryam have you got into Level 12 yet?

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
I'm stuck on Nine, and I was stuck on Five forever, so...

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
And Maryam has been playing for a while, so that gives you an idea that you move it up to Level 12, it's hardcore, right.

Kim Sacha - Zuma Player
I guess.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Hardcore Zuma here.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
It's all just playing the game to me. So, 13 is the last one. So, I'll get up to 13 and show you because a lot of people don't even know, what that one looks like? It looks a lot different from the other ones.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
And we might run out of battery here and its -- so I'll just stop and put on another battery or actually I should just switch the battery.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
So, the object of the game is to get points by...this is going to be very difficult, you get points (ph). All right, the object of the game is to get points by shooting the same color ball -- at the same color balls and it should be three or more. So, right now she just shot three pink ones, I've never ever seen this one.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Oh, this is 12.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
I have seen you play it.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
And if you hit the right balls, are there any other right balls on the screen right now, the blinking balls like that one, you'll get more points and sometimes you'll get things that slow down the game and move it backwards and if the balls get to this hole they'll all fall in and then you'll die.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
There you go.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
And if you hit things outside you will get extra points.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
So, normally when I'm playing this, I'm alone, as I like to stand out quickly, that I did much better, when my husband wasn't at home, people weren't moving around so...

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
And asking you questions about I just (Voice overlap). We can go back down to the lower level and then I'll be able to talk you through. This is the hardest level. I wish I could fast.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
So, I think this is technically called a stage, like level -- Stage 12 and then this is Level 12/1 and I think, it goes up to like 12-7 before we actually get to 13.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Okay.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
This is one of my favorites.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
All right.

Kim Sacha - Zuma Player
You get the coins, for extra coins you finish a lot faster.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
What is that?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
So, what determines that new balls will come out, is that gauge up in the upper right corner.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
It's the orange gauge?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Yes, the orange gauge and...

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Half gold right now.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
When it fills all the way, no more balls will come out, and then sure when you finish, shooting out first and that level is over. And the quicker you finish, if you finish before the ace time, then you'll get extra points.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
So what I think, I am going to do is to turn off the camera, so you can play through to the last level and then we'll pick it back up.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
That's sounds like a super idea.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
See you in a second. So, we are on Level 13 now.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Just a few minutes later and she is Zum through -- Zuma through.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
What does this Zuma mean by the way, when I say Zuma?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
I don't know. It's just sound as tacky, I think.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
But does that mean you hit a certain ball or you got to a certain point again?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
I think so. Well, I was just saying to Maryam that I don't really know how many points you get for anything. I don't know, what anything is called or anything become too wrapped up in just two balls, the whole time, that I don't get to see any of it and I really, I'm going make you play, so I can watch you, so I can find out, how many points from games or things, and all that .

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
So, why do you think, women like Zuma so much?

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
And we should say that, when I wrote about Xbox 360, some people said, do not let your wife see Zuma or you won't get to touch the remote, you know what, all the consoles.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
I know and I've been addicted to it ever since you showed me.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
It's true, my husband use to sit here for hours and hours playing all of his Call of Duty and Halo and all of that. And now, it's like -- no it's my Xbox, what are you doing playing Xbox? I really think they either playing learning and playing it is really the job because I tried Halo and I don't know whether I like Zuma games or not, I suppose it could be fun but I'm like, I have to move ahead how and this is going to take a lot of finesse and I just want to play because this is to me, it's fun, it's not something I need to learn, I work hard all day at school, all I need to come home and learn.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
It's just fun and it's mindless and yeah you can escape. But you also had a better explanation.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
When, earlier today or...?

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Do you know, she told me that because the balls look like jewels.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Oh, I did -- I have been known to say that women like to break balls and get blamed. But that's not a true feeling, it just happens to me what the game is all about.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
And you are good at. Here we go, we are now on Stage 13. I've never even seen this stage. If you are a hardcore Zuma player, then you'll get here, I have never ever seen it and we're in there in a few minutes. So, here we go. Oh my God, you're in space, there's no track. I don't know where they're going on track.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Well, it's the same all the time, so you get used to it, because...

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Now, how do you decide when to switch colors, and how do you switch colors on the controller?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
It's 'B' you can switch with 'B' but I think that when people start it out, a lot of times they think they switch all the time on their own, because --these are involved -- this one shoots, this left one here (Inaudible) no one use it, I don't know there's another way to switch I think too, and people do it on activate (ph). Here I'm not paying attention to my game at all. People do it on activate they're like, always switching on its own, but really you get better with the control.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
B switch, is it?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Yeah, but to sure the answer, its B switches it, yeah.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
And you're shooting with A.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
That puts you much in, and then you move these joysticks around, crazy, but once you get to this close, it's just, you have to be fast.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Come on I wish I could play like you, look how fast you play. So, once you go through with it, we can go back to the beginning and you can show us some tips.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player-
Definitely. But as you can see in this level - it is just (Inaudible) this, there are many gold coins or anything to get, so it's just not quite as fun. So, see if you can get, you're getting another Gap Bonus, every time you go between those, so if you can set it up or you can shoot it through the gaps all the time, you can get major points very quick.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Now, you have a Zuma Weblog that you keep?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Yes, we do.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
What is that address, so if we want to get tips on playing Zuma?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
It's -- now I am going to pause it for a sec. It's www is that?

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
No. Zuma360.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
No, it's just zuma360.wordpress.com, I just started it. So, there's only like three entries.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
So, they'll be more about the videos, time and videos, that's right?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Oh yeah, it will be up for a little while.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
So, how many levels are there in 13th? How many stages?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
This is it.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Is this one stage or is there more than...?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
It's so easy you win this little bit right here.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Oh, you mean the whole game.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Yeah.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Wow, that'd be cool.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
The point of this is to get through all the levels, but also have the most points, right? So, -- right now you have eight most points in the world that of everybody, right?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Right. So, you don't actually have to beat the game to get first place or anything like that, it's solely based on points. So, if you figure out away to get whole bunch of points at every level...

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
You don't even need to get up there.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Yeah. You don't even have to beat this Level 13. Believe me I've been scheming ways to do this, but so far none of them have panned out. This seems to be the best strategy is just finish as quickly as possible, because time bonuses are worth a lot.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Okay, cool.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Okay. Let me finish this and then I'll go to the beginning.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Do you ever get sick of this music in the background?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Oh, it's definitely a nice music. I can't play without it. It's weird to play without it. One time I tried to play the whole game without it, and I scored just as low, even though I found the whole thing a bit unnerving.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
It's hard to play without it, it kind of gives you win.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Yeah, that's right, and the music changes when you get into a tough spot, which is as little bit as intensity.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Oh my God.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
You see how it -- when it snakes around with the coins at the end the further you are away, the more points you're going to get. That's a huge amount of points too.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Yeah, that's the end. Wow! Very cool!

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
But the thing is you see here in this I can't win it, tell us that your score it adds points for every life that you have left. So, if you can end the game with 20 lives, 30 lives then you can double your score. Only few because we started at Level 12, that's where you have to start from the beginning every time.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Yeah. So, let's go back to the beginning, and have you show us, how to do it.-

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Okay.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
So, to get maximum points you have to start at the beginning and play all the way through like you did at my party.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Exactly.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
And have you played through all the way without losing a guy, or losing a frog?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Yeah, that's actually every time I play.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Losing a guy (Inaudible).

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Losing a guy.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Yeah, that's actually...

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
We've had some wine before we start doing the show, this explains my shaky camera work.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
That's my goal every time is to make it through without losing one right now, and eventually I might have a different goal, but right now that's what I work towards, and I probably do that maybe half the time. Okay, so now.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Okay. Show us some tricks.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
I want to listen to this first. Okay, so some of the most important things are getting these combo, I hope I -- no are these chains or combos, I don't know, but when you get -- see if you hit in between, if you hit here and the ones on the outside of the same colors then those are going to close together, and you again get a bonus for that. So, that's one of the best way.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
You hit the coin and you got some more there.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Yeah, the coins are also really important.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
There are some of the balls that are going to be blinking or...(Inaudible)

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Do they have a presets, number of blinking balls that are going to come out?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
I don't think so; they generally come out till the very end on most of the levels but, I think level one is a special case. Okay, so then -- so second thing they gets you a lot of points is to set up a gap, and when you do that -- I see here, I can set that up, so here if I shoot these they're going to come together. Okay, so then I have that gap and if I can shoot these like pair.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
And get them to a...

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Get them to go and set, then I get a bonus for that, and it's bigger depending on how small the gap is. If you hit a blinking light or bat, it goes back or it sets everybody fire, right. These are special balls with two different things. The best one to get is the target. Oh no, it look likes a target and when you get that then you can shoot a lot faster. Oh, they call it 'Accuracy ball,' that's what they call it.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Accuracy ball.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Yeah, and you just go really fast. You can shoot out the balls faster, it makes you time better and it means that you miss less, that's a lot of problem is missing So, another thing that I do that I consider one of my more advance rules, that I had figured out to tell later on is that, it's going to be -- I have to set one out here. When you hit them like this and they are coming together, if you have a ball lined up to shoot. That's the thing, however even if they weren't like sometimes when they're going to...

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
It's much more difficult to explain that.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
I actually do it, but when they're going backwards, it may like those red ones that went there, if they were actually only two ones, so they weren't going to actually disappear then you can and you have a red one that's inside his mouth then you shoot it after red ones, as you know the other ones are coming back and they'll also go away. So, it doesn't have to already be there when you shoot the one in the middle. Does that makes sense?

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Yeah.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Okay, and I'm trying to do it, here maybe some of my other video has done it, like I could have done those green ones there if I can. They are right colored mind out.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Now, occasionally you shoot one off-screen, why do you do that?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Because it's not the right color and I don't want more ball. I don't need more balls in the line, because that will slow me down. So, another thing here, if people think that if like, especially kids love the bomb that explodes and devastates everything around, it's not actually always the best thing, like if you have a chain lined up here, you don't want to shoot that one.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Oh, I didn't know that.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Because that's going to really change and you're going to miss out a lot of points for just like little explosion, right.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
I love explosions, but I didn't know that I was a little point above it.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
So, what I just state there was -- see, because I get more points, prefer the back balls are then -- so I'll shoot they're back like magnets, right. So, I'll shoot the same color ball and the one in front and it'll move them all back to the other one, in that way I get more points and plus, I mean that really is what saves me from dying most of the time, right. It's like you keep pulling the line back. As much as I can pull the line back and then the better chance I have of not dying.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
How long does it take you to play an entire game?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Two hours.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Two hours.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Well, that's the time that the string sets take in. So, I don't know is that's the actual time because I -- in between levels or end of your points and that's sort of thing it takes time but the actual playtime.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Do you get penalized for pausing the game?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
No. I'm trying to setup one of these here, so I can explain what I was explaining before.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Okay, so, here's what I was trying to say with words before. If I shoot these yellow ones and the red ones as we stand now would not disappear, but I want them to disappear, so I shoot the red one before they hit, I still get the bonus, the chain happens and that's big points.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Very cool.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Did you have to some of that?

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
No, I just wanted you to explain the different balls, and what they mean, there's like arrows, there's that pause, there's two different kind of target ones, so as they come by you can explain to us, what their purpose is, that would be great.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Sure.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
And any other tips and tricks that you can tell along the way. Not me, so I can get out it makes none (ph).

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
You're going to be the Champion now. The biggest thing I have to say for people that really want to give out this game, that just haven't seemed to be able to break pass a certain stage is, you have to start at the beginning every time.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
And why is that?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Because when you start at the beginning, you do the easy level every, I think 50,000 points or whatever it is, you get an extra life and those lives become really important layer.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
So, now you have a pause line, right there.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Pause, and that blinking.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
So, the blinking -- green blinking ball right there.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
So, the blinking green one here are explosions and I just missed it, here we -- we went over here.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Can I ask you the other question? - And so you've said start from the beginning, so you get extra lives.

Kim Sacha - Zuma Player
Yeah, start from the beginning so you get extra lives and then when you get to the levels that are really hard like, if you have -- let's say, Level Nine is your hardest right, if you can have ten lives say in depth, when you get there.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Oh yeah, I wish.

Kim Sacha - Zuma Player
Right, well, that's when you get them levels one and two and three, it's really easy and then you get there and you're like, well I can try it over and over again and then you can learn.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Because you start with three lives but every -- how many scores do you need to get before you get extra life?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
50,000.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
50,000.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Yeah, and that's for all these tricks like coins and time bonuses and things really come into play because you use those -- you get three levels quicker, you get more points, you get more lives and all that stuff.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Explain are there achievements in this game?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Oh, there are achievements, I'm glad you asked about that.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Wow, Robert.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
I know my Xbox, just put that (Voice Overlap).

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
So, actually look on, oh we can see the achievements from here I think. Here's the list of the achievements and Son of Sun, I think a lot of people are confused about, so I just say a quick comment.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
What are achievements first of all because some people who don't know Xbox or, haven't seen that well?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Well, I thought it was just something in this game but apparently in the Xbox every game has achievements, that you are - for doing certain things in the game, whether it be like scoring a certain amount of points or just plugging in a certain number of hours at it or whatever. Yes but so, it turns out every game has the same...

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
And everybody has a Gamer Card?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Yeah, and then everybody has a Gamer Card and they get this scores as they can be the greatest gamer on earth.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Now, I can look up to your Gamer Card online right, yeah I can. So, yes.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
You know the Internets.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
The Internet players has the (Voice Overlap) of course was. Have you searched the Google for the Internet and the Xbox Gamer Card? But I could compare my Gamer Card with yours and I could see that I really suck.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Actually the thing is since I only play this one game, you probably have a better gamer score than me.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Overall.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Yeah overall because...

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Because my 12-year-old son actually earned my achievements and you came over and actually earned me some achievements on Zuma which is another trick, if you want to get a better gamer card, you can buy cool players, half of them have them play your Xbox.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Yeah. I wouldn't say that too loudly to people on the Zuma forum and I just started reading get really upset about that. they're like, that's cheating and you're going to get kicked out and all this stuff, but Robert it's no stranger to trouble.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Yeah, and I can't be in trouble.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
So, tell us a little about your achievements?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Okay. So, Son of Sun actually isn't in -- just, Zuma has two modes, there is Gauntlet and Adventure, Adventure is where I play, and as far as you just go through each level, there's a different setup every time and you actually finish one, then move on and you finish that and move on and get to the end. But in Gauntlet, all that you do is play the same thing and it just gets faster and faster until you die, and then you get one score for that.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
And that's one of the ways to get your skills up and...

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Yeah, it's a great way to get your skills up and they've got their whole own leader board and I am sure someone would (Voice Overlap).

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
But right now you were playing the Adventure.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Adventure, that's right. So, when you are in Gauntlet mode, you can practice all of the different -- what do you call this like backdrops or I don't know.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Platforms.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Platforms right, you can practice each of the different ones and if you get to Son of the Sun rank in each of those, then you get your Son of Sun achievement unlocked. So, that's what that ones about, so you've ones here for playing like 24 hours or...

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
I got that one.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Collecting Coin, Finding Gap all these, and only one I haven't done is the Sharp Shooter, you have to finish the level in less than five seconds.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Wow! Is that possible?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Yeah, quite a few people have done it and there's six seconds apparent, I have done six seconds. So, I think that at this point it's just going to be locked because I think I am fast enough, it's like the right -- the balls have to come out in a certain pattern, you have to be able to just shoot one ball and then just have them all go away and be done, right. So, that one is pretty creepy and I heard a rumor that there was some sort of glitch in the system so that, if you like logged out and log back in then it will think that you are a new player and it would give you an easier pattern in Level 1 and then you could get that and that was how a bunch of people were getting it and I'm like verify, this is just where I heard them form and...

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
On the Internets.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
On the Internets.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Maybe she will search it in the Google.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
And that's just but if, supposedly they fix that with the latest update.- Too bad for me that I haven't figured that out.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
They have no smart people updating our systems, closing the doors.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
So, if you're telling all the glitches on the Internet, I just know that they're watching and then you'll fix it.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Now, some of the games actually let you play against people, Zuma is not one of those kinds of games right, it's always a solitary activity.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
This is one my most recent blog posts actually, is that we need a multiplayer Zuma game bad, I really was -- I'd love to really go online.

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
So, you could go head-to-head with Maryam and kick her ass.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Yes. I want to go head-to-head with you and kick your ass.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
I am not sure many of my friends would play to you on it, so I really -- I would love to go head-to-head, it's like some of these other people that are in the top ten too. That would just be a lot of fun. And I put on there, if Zuma people are watching this video, I have on there exactly, how it needs to be set up, because its all ready, you just got to go write the code.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Very cool. So Kim, thank you so much for sharing your game and your tips with us any last minute tips or tricks for the PodTech viewers, you want to talk about the game or anything else, life in general?

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
I think...

Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Drink a lot of wine, before doing that.

Kim Sacha - Champion Zuma Player
Drink a lot of wine and don't let your wife play, and just have fun.

Maryam Scoble - ScobleShow
Thank you.