Guest: Peter Ryce - Adobe
Host: Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Peter Ryce - Adobe
The Connectionist...
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
The Connectionist, is that really your real title.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
I put it, on my business cards.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
That's awesome. Somebody is going to be the connectionist, right.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
Yeah, I use to be the Breeze Evangelist, when we had a Breeze product, since we rename the Breeze product Connect, so your connectionist to the ...
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
So, you came from Macromedia, right? And how long were you at Macromedia?
Peter Ryce - Adobe
I've been in Macromedia, or was at Macromedia for, I guess, five almost six years, starting out as product manager for Director and for a variety of other products including the Flash Communication server now renamed Flash Media Server and I've been on the Breeze Product Management team, ever since there's been Breeze product.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Right, so, what is Breeze?
Peter Ryce - Adobe
Well, Breeze is renamed, so I have to start-- I've to get into the new mode, of calling it Connect. So, Connect is a collection of application, that provide a solution for communication and collaboration.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
With co-workers and mixture of things, that's right?
Peter Ryce - Adobe
Yeah, it's not just conferencing, Conferencing is one aspect of it and that's actually called Adobe Acrobat Connect and there's Acrobat Connect Professional, what has previously been known as Breeze Meeting, but in addition to that conferencing part, there is also capabilities for creating presentation inside a PowerPoint and publishing them as on-demand presentations. So, the people can just watch them any time and are delivered thorough nothing more than Flash and there is also capabilities for...
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Now, we can bore people around the world, right.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
Problem with PowerPoint (Inaudible). The problem with PowerPoint is typically that there, you create a beautiful PowerPoint with lots of nice graphics and it's 25 megabytes and you try to email it to somebody and it doesn't get through the email filters and so on and, when they do finally get at the thing that's missing, is the most important thing, is you there to talk about it because if you do as PowerPoint instruction tells you just have like few words on the screen and big fonts and if you get it down...
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
If you are in the Steve Jobs camp, two, one or three words on...
Peter Ryce - Adobe
Same problem though, if you are not there and the...
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
In the Bill Gates Camp, you put a 100 words on a slide.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
I have seen both, and everything in between. But the biggest problem is that, if you're not there to talk about it, people have no idea, what those three words were supposed to mean? So, our system lets you -- be in PowerPoint and talk over your slides and it records you and then it merges together, you're talking with the slides and delivers it through nothing more than a Flash Player. So, that its lightweight it delivers over a dial-up connection and it's on a URL, so you don't need any special software, you just click a link and you can watch a presentation. So, it solves and you make it rich -- you can actually make them more engaging than the static PowerPoint's. You can use all the animation that are in PowerPoint, you can insert movies and interactive applications and all sorts of great things can be put inside that. So, that's one part of it.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Is that -- so, is it meant to be use live with the group of people watching it while I give a presentation or we can or both?
Peter Ryce - Adobe
No, it's used actually as independent material that people can watch anytime for the purposes of training, for marketing. So, as an example, if I were call up here this is an example done by Palm and I'll make this a little bit bigger and this is a great example that -- product that have actually got my plug fit in (ph) back here so we can get some sound...
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Sound so overrated.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
But the -- There is actually audio associated with this and I just need to make sure that I switch over to the appropriate one but the whole idea and I want to go playback, good it is picking up the Sound Max now and we need to restart this because, I just want to make sure that there is audio, so you can hear it, that's better. So, if I again just launch up a browser Window and go down to the Palm presentation and because it's Flash you can see that scales.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
And so, I can pause it and fast forward to it; I can jump to (Inaudible) like TiVo, and fast forward to the commercials.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
Sure, here's a scrub, I can even scrub through the animations that are part of the slide. So, there is variety of things, that you can do with it so it's everything from those types of things to maybe a little bit sort of more personal information that you want to deliver. So, in this case it may be -- TIAA-CREF is doing some great presentation, so if you want to learn about; a smart way for saving for tax retirements -- saving taxes for your for your retirement, here's a presentation that they've got on their site, that you can go to and these are public presentations -- some nice CREF music
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
I think they have to go through training, just to learn how to stay (Inaudible).
Peter Ryce - Adobe
So, but you can see that the idea is that, it's a presentation that can go to any time, anywhere and just watch with the Flash Player.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
And this work's over dial-up modem, and so, does it scale the experience down if I am in India and on a 28k modem or 51k modem?
Peter Ryce - Adobe
Well, most of this -- because all these slides are converted from the original PowerPoint into Flash they turn into light weight vectors and each slide, when you look at just the text on the slide and the slide content, works out to be 20 k or 30 k. so, and we do some intelligent things like, when you're watching the first slide, we are actually cashing slides in the back ground so that you get the kind of video content. ...
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Right, I like that video content.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
The videos if you are embedding higher quality content, original content like video, it's up to you to, determine the encoding, rate things like that. So, we just embed whatever you give us and then deliver it. So, that's presenter, so that's on our main presentation, but we also have an event management system, so if you want to do Webinar and if you think about all the things that go along with that, lets say I am doing a Photoshop Webinar and I want to buy a mailing list from Photo Magazine and I want to mail it to a 1000 people and invite them to have Webinar. I can just take that CSP file names and email addresses, import to our system and then the system automatically blasts an email inviting everybody to come register for that Webinar; but I can that same link for registration and put it on my webpage.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Now that's exactly, because I wanted -- I am actually doing Webinars, well I am doing seminars, real seminars, where people come in and see me do a presentation, and right now I want to do that, on the web. So, is this a service that Adobe host or do I buy a server or how do I build my own Webinar Empire?
Peter Ryce - Adobe
Two options, which is we have, one option, where it's hosted by Adobe. So, if you want to, you can go with us and use the system entirely online. So, you just look -- from signing up to starting to use it is 15 minutes and then you can log in, you can upload your list, blast your emails and set up your Webinar. The event capability of Connect though does also do other things like, you can ask registration questions to see, if people have a digital camera or what kind of camera, or a mega pixels in, or ask any questions that you'd like. You can than choose to approve or deny people based on their responses to those question. You can automatically approve everybody, if you want. It will automatically send out emails reminders; 'don't forget the Webinar is tomorrow' it will say if you move the date and it will send, don't we change the date automatically. It will automatically send, 'thank you'. So the people did show up and 'I am sorry you missed it' to the people who didn't and you can customize everyone of those emails in advance, so that it's pretty much a set and forget it once its ready to go, please let it go and it will automate -- automate all those emails that would otherwise take a long time for you do manually.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
And I can link to it from my blog and say, hey, I am giving a Webinar next Tuesday and sign up here and...
Peter Ryce - Adobe
It's just a Euro.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
...and there's a registration form and all that fun stuff and then, when the time comes along...
Peter Ryce - Adobe
Well, it has got -- when people register, its got all their emails in, so it's automatically sending them the email messages that you have queued for them to be getting like, 'don't forget the Webinars tomorrow' kind of thing - it will do that for you.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
And then from the presenter's side, do I use -- does it help me get going as a presenter, put in PowerPoint here, is it pretty easy to deal with as a presenter?
Peter Ryce - Adobe
Yeah, because the events capabilities really all the things that surrounding actual event. The event itself could be either delivery of one of those presentations, I just showed you, that's on-demand, or it could be a meeting and so the meeting would happen in a Connect Professional room, so the Connect Professional room is also very easy to get started, you can...
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
How many people can be in a room?
Peter Ryce - Adobe
A Connect Professional room can have up to 2500 people, simultaneously.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Okay. That's pretty good. I don't think I will be doing Webinar that big. Maybe? And how do I pay for that? Let's say, I want Adobe to do everything, I just want to have a Webinar next Tuesday. Do I pay per person, shows up or do I pay a one time fee?
Peter Ryce - Adobe
If you just want to use our -- to use the event capability, you have to sign up for an annual subscription with us and then we'd provide all of the functions that you can choose. If you just wanted to have a quick meeting and that wasn't going to -- have that kind of schedule or using some other way to schedule it. You can sign up for a variety of, I mean, there is a pay per use model, so that you could sign up for a one time meeting you are going to have and you will pay $0.32 a minute per person that shows up. So, we had a customer do a believe it or not a huge meeting of $16,000 and the only reason we found this out was because we couldn't charge more than 15000 to their credit card, did anyone go, so we had charge twice and we called them and find out, how they liked that and they said, 'It was great we had so much, real huge budget to fly people into do a big company conference instead we did this it cost us so much less.' So they were really pleased, so you can do bad or you can have a small meeting of five people, if it saves you any sort of cost of travel things like that..
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
I mean, I use to plan conferences for Programmers and for Web Developer's back in the 90's and we would spend $80,000 to $100,000 just getting the speakers there, much less getting everything else there. So, 15,000 is not bad if you have that kind of audience size.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
That was for particularly large -- I mean a lot of people have small meetings of ten people, or five people. We also have monthly plans and we annual plans so there is (Inaudible). The other option that, you have is that you can buy the server out right from us and own it. So that you can then host...
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
And how much is that?
Peter Ryce - Adobe
The server price starts at around $20,000 for the base server and then it's options and number of concurrent users that you can add to that. So, but that's sort of a base price that we start up for owning a server outright.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Okay, cool. What else do I need to know about it, because it sounds pretty straight forward I can do meeting. What other media -- so next time I am going to have this Webinar next Tuesday. I got a 100 people showing up and they've all been emailed and reminded and I start -- what else can I do with them, can I just show them PowerPoint and a little video camera view of myself?
Peter Ryce - Adobe
No, that's the nice thing about the flexibility of product there is a whole range of things that you can do within the meeting space. So, if I am in a meeting, yes I can certainly show my PowerPoint slides here and I can certainly turn on my web camera here, and I've got a switch to it, a different one I've been playing around with my camera here, I apologize. I'll turn that off for the moment because I've been putting in my other camera but I'll get that going in a second. So I can show my camera...
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
I know how it works.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
Yeah, I've got a list of the people who are in the room, I've got chat and things like that, but the system is far more flexible and that it allows me to call-up a variety of media types if I want. So, first of all let me just show you how easily you can get into one of these rooms; so, from a standard browser I can simply go in and I've got a personal URL this is myadobe. acrobat.com/peter. So I can give anybody my URL quickly and easily and I can get to it just by logging in from any browser -- and the nice thing is, I don't have to have special software installed the only thing you need is a Flash Player and 98% of browsers already have that installed so I can log in to this meeting from the PC all the versions available...
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Like Mac, Windows, Firefox, so you don't need a IE or some wearied browser?
Peter Ryce - Adobe
No, its Flash Player so anywhere the Flash Player 6 lives, in fact, we've been doing some tests and we've got some prototypes working on that and you can work another devices. So, it's kind of fun when you see the possibility because we need nothing more than the Flash Player, we talk about it giving you the confidence to, the confidence feel to go into a meeting room and know that your customers or your people you want to visit with you can get in without any trouble. But, what we can do videos and other thing that if I pull up a video file I can just go and get a video file that I got in here.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
What are the data types I can play? I can play PowerPoint obviously, video.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
Yup, video I can bring in documents, so and say here's a video but if I -- and our video is very well-integrated. So, I can pause this video, I can scale the video to any size that I want. But, we can do somethings that most of the systems can't do, like I can Whiteboard on top of this video. In fact, I can pick up these Whiteboard tools and I can go and put a partially transparent green box or a green circle out here, these are all flash, I can move them around and what's really unique is that I can continue to play this. Actually, make sure the Whiteboard back on. I can play it with the Whiteboard turned on. So, the full Monday night football kind of effect, so if I wanted to highlightthe...
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Put the layer over to the top of the video.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
Exactly.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
And if I had a hundred people on my Webinar everybody would be seeing what I was fiddling on the screen.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
Exactly, and then I can hide that Whiteboard later if I want. But the other types of things that I can bring in are documents, so if I often, you do need a document inside of this meeting and in this case I can bring up a document and everybody is going to see this document so as I step through my document I can go through things this way or I go page-by-page. I can do a search if I wanted to find a certain word, it will find out word and I can go and find that word through this document.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Yeah, only Acrobat. Now it works with the Acrobat documents, does it work with other kinds of (Inaudible) like Microsoft Word document or something like that?
Peter Ryce - Adobe
This is a printer driver called FlashPaper that you can print from any application you're having, you can just say, 'Print' and then choose FlashPaper as your print output, it will create a file for you. When you loaded into the room, I'm not the screen sharing, when I calls into the room, it actually delivers a copy to every client and as I step through these things like, Zoom and Pan and things like that, it's sending very light-weight messages to everybody to keep them on and sink with me. It's not actually having to push all the pixels that I am changing on my screen, it keeps it really light-weight. What's even more important is I can unsynchronize it, and this will actually unveil the controls including ability to print for everybody. So, people can print a document right every meeting.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
So, if I am watching in England, and you're here in San Jose I can actually printout what you're showing me.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
Exactly, so I can truly share the document.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Now, so it's in sent document stream over to me, is it pre-voluntary, do I have to worry about file sizes or anything or if I send a 25meg document and some in-design that brochure -- crazy brochure that I spend all weekend doing and...
Peter Ryce - Adobe
You do have to be sensitive to file sizes, we can't change the laws of Physics, so if I load in a file that's 25megs, it will take it allows to take through 25megs to get delivered, but...
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
But, it won't slow down our voice conversation or anything.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
No, actually to execute say, an http request in the background and it's actually going to be downloading that through a standard browser call, and it will deliver into your cache and it will live there and be accessible from the meeting room where I can control it. So, that's another file type. We also support images, we support some call captivate or screen capture capability and simulation product and it allows you to create things like this where and actually -- this is a presentation that I created before, but you can see it's a replay.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Right, so you just captured what you were doing on your screen?
Peter Ryce - Adobe
Right and I can scrub through this, as you can see it's easy to scrub. But it's a presentation complete with voice that I can load into my meeting and playback for people.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Now, another technology that played with I can't do video games, right and this is not that higher. Well, it's sometimes when I demonstrate what Second Life is like somebody without taking them in there and lead him (ph) through but, I am not -- the technology is not to that level where I can do.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
It does allow me to share my computer screen, I can share any aspect of my screen either on my entire desktop, any one window or any application. So, if I wanted to share an application that was running, I could do that locally. Another thing I can do is that I can actually load any type of Flash content. So, if I do have an application that has been written in Flash, I can load it into the meeting room and share it with everybody. So, there is a variety of things that we can look at, here's the one that I think is quite fun. This a Flash application that if I were to go in and type in 95110 where we are here in San Jose and click on it, it's actually a live Flash application that just when I did web service call and return data and render it.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
So, really 68 degrees?
Peter Ryce - Adobe
That's what it says.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
I know it's sunny, I can see that.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
So, this really opens up the playing field when you think about what you can do that anything that can work in Flash now is a valid content type inside of my meeting space.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Yahoo! Map.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
Well, we've got a step further than the typical thoughts about, yeah, I have Flash content because we've actually provided a collaboration Builder Toolkit, it's a free SDK, any Flash developer can use it and build multi-user applications. So, now if I want to and I don't know if I have the Yahoo! Maps.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
So, could I build an app that let's my audience vote on things?
Peter Ryce - Adobe
Absolutely, yeah.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Like, is this presentation live (ph) or not?
Peter Ryce - Adobe
Well, we provide the ability to do polling out of the box.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
I do.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
So, if you just want to do a poll, I can do multiple-choice, multiple-answer, standard polls like you would see here and people can see the results or not, the system automatically captures everybody's results as they type them in or as they click on their choices, it's automatically captured, so I can go and close these polls now and capture the dataset. So, that kind of polling is possible out of the box, but if you wanted to go beyond that and make a truly interactive app or people are all engaged, we allow you to do that too. So, everything from you mentioned it's all I have to show it. Everything from a - let's see, I'll do a Flash game here, so this -- sometimes the meetings don't always start immediately and so you want to keep people occupied. So, here's one where you -- we can playback the Penguin for a little while and actually and it keeps...
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
That was an award-winning game at Microsoft.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
We love that game here and it's certainly one of the most popular things that we use. But sometimes you need to go beyond that and sometimes it makes sense to do things like training, and how can you make training more fun in a virtual space. Well, we've been turning it into a game. Imagine if you actually had to go in and respond to questions, just as you did with popular games like Jeopardy, where somebody says, okay I'll take famous names for 600 and the name of the dog and there is something about Mary, and then I could as the host activate the buzzer for all the participants in the room. Everybody is playing, everybody gets the chance to ring in, tell me what the answer is and I can deduct or add points to their score. So, we...
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
This is a good way to make sure that Joe and London (ph) is actually paying attention.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
Paying attention, yeah. It's true one of the hardest things to insure is that, are you watching, are you engaged? And the best way to do it is to actually get people engaged by providing them rich material that they can interact with.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
And can I actually see how many people are participating, if I have a hundred people can I see that they were actually answering their question.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
Absolutely, it depends on how you want to write the Flash movie, it's just Flash, anybody who can write a Flash movie, there's over a million developers out there can create this type of content loaded in. Sometimes it makes sense for to work in large group, sometimes you want smaller pieces. So, this is a great one that was submitted to a contest we had recently and it's a great piece, people are in computers, can you build an Exclusive-OR Gate out of using nothing but NAND gates. So, you actually get to drag out these pieces and you can see if you can put together a gate, a proper I'll put and be together here and put and I get to build whole little system here that would allow me to test and see and I can put here and actually if at any point I can evaluate that and it'll go through and show me the test of all my evaluations, so I can keep on building this.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
That's a geeky game.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
It is totally a geeky game, but it actually shows me who's participating and who's not and things like that. I actually will get a list of who's involved and who's viewing.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Excellent!
Peter Ryce - Adobe
So, it's really powerful when you can let people in the meeting participate and something more than just poll. This really takes this to the next level of interaction inside of a shared collaborative space.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
What do you want to tell the Internet about this? You're doing a pretty good job of showing me what's cool about it and getting me excited about using this for Webinar (Voice Overlap).
Peter Ryce - Adobe
Well, we want to make it easy for everybody to use it and so what we've done is, in this release of Acrobat 8 we've added some new functionality. So, if I was inside of my Acrobat Reader here, and this is just the free Reader that everybody can download. We've putted in a new button up here, and this new button says, 'Click to start an Acrobat Connect meeting.' So, if we look at why people would use this? We see people using Acrobat to do things like Shared review and Comments and things like that, but sometimes you really need to talk to the person in real time and look at the same thing. So, I would normally go through a series of, start an instant message with the person to find out their phone number and then I try to talk to them about the same document and they may or may not know what I am talking about, we may not be on the same page.
By being able to click once and then about as much time as it will take me to navigate through my Instant Messenger phone call, things like that, I've now jumped into my personal meeting room. So, here's my personal meeting room, it's all set to go. I have a personal URL to this meeting room that I could actually put on my business cards because it's going to be as constant as my phone number or my e-mail address. So, I could take that number and if I wanted to get somebody else and I could read that URL over the phone, I could put it in an Instant Message or I could invite them, but let me just take it into a browser to see what the participant would see. So, let's say, my friend David wanted to join the meeting, he would do that and while he's doing that, I'm over here waiting for him. This is about how long it takes him to get in. I say 'Accept' and David is in my room. So, we now are in a shared space that we can look at and so this is called...
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
You started a document, you clicked on a button and now you're having a meeting about this thing.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
And now I can say, "Hey David!"
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
We didn't have to schedule it, you don't have to talk IT Manager into having a meeting.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
And it was instant on, and that was the part that was really powerful is that it just turned on when I needed it to, and now I can pick that document from a list and say, "Hey, let me share this with David," and I get a little message down here that I'm sharing my screen. David is now seeing what I'm talking about, we can both talk about the same thing is like, "David, what did you mean by that comment, I would like to understand that better," and he knows which comment I'm referring to. So, it's something that we think that part of the challenge that people have had with using tools like conferencing tools has been of the things you just mentioned, scheduling and organizing and making, did the person have all the right software installed in advance or they're on the right browser. I don't have to worry about that, it's just Flash and I know that, they've got it. So, they joined me in a matter of seconds and that's really the confidence we want to give into that.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
And your voice is going to the computer or you can use the phone.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
In this case, just I could use a phone in fact, we could even work with an Integrated Telephony System, and that's something that is also really powerful when you look at telephony systems and there is one that I can do from here, let's say I'm in a meeting room and I wanted to communicate with people by phone. We have the ability to go up and say, I want to start an audio conference right from within the meeting itself, and this now lets me go in and say, okay, who's going to be on my call, well, myself, so let me call my phone. It's already got my phone number because I'm using this system, it will automatically ring my phone here and so I'm in my call. I didn't have to dial a huge ten-digit number and a pass code, and so it just made it simple. Now, I can do that for ten people, dial it automatically to all ten people or when another people join the meeting room they tape in their own phone number and it just calls them. So, the audio conference is now running, I can see if on screen that I'm the person talking. If somebody on that call puts us on hold and we all get hold music, normally you have to all hang up and dial that again, I don't have to do that anymore, I can simply go here and say, let's select that user and put them on 'Mute' and that has muted them.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Okay, what part of this did I need to setup before hand, did I need to have a server or its a contract with Adobe or its something like that?
Peter Ryce - Adobe
All you need for this particular case is to have a meeting that one of our meeting rooms either, through any of the means that you can have that and as part of your account, you can enter your conference number, so the conference in this case...
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
But, if I have my high school kid out there and I just Acrobat Reader, I can't just start one of these.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
No, in fact if you just download the Acrobat Reader and you are looking at that, the way that you would start is through a free trial, you could go and get a free trial. If we look at -- if you like the system, if you use it for couple of weeks and you think that this is really going to save your time and money, the Acrobat Connect will be available, believe the pricing is set at $39 a month. So, I could sign up for a monthly or I could go for an annual subscription that I think 395 and I'd have my meeting room. Now, that the connect meeting, the Acrobat Connect meeting room is good for upto 15 people, so yourself and 14 others. You can do the sharing of your screen and all those things quickly and easily for $39 a month, and if that saves you one trip across town you probably saved the money to pay it for a month. So, and certainly it saves you a trip across the country you've paid for the year. So, we're hoping that by making it easy to use, giving people the confidence that they are -- to be able to they want to meet with they're going to be able to join them that the growth in conferencing will actually see some real acceleration here.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Oh, this is pretty cool stuff.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
Thanks, it is fun.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
So, thanks for showing it to me.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
You're very welcome, my pleasure.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
I'm going to try it out on my own Webinar so and so.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
You have to load in some fun Flash games that you can share with people.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
I like that Dot the Penguin; that's my Microsoft bird showing up.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
It's the most favorite game around this entire company, I think so.
Robert Scoble - ScobleShow
Very cool! Thank you very much.
Peter Ryce - Adobe
You're very welcome.